On this week’s podcast, Ruby Varghese of Quest Church joins Irene M. Cho for an episode about women leadership in Asian American churches.

It’s a thoughtful and powerful conversation between women ministers, discussing toxic masculinity, being women of color in Christian leadership, and Asian American church culture.

Thanks to Carl Catedral for engineering this episode, as well as Mark Redito for contributing music and Jason Garreth Loke for producing.


Centering is the Asian American Christian podcast. Hosted by Irene M. Cho, we feature weekly conversations with guests, bringing their Asian American perspectives on culture, identity, Christ and Christian life.

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