On this week’s podcast, Ruby Varghese of Quest Church joins Irene M. Cho for an episode about women leadership in Asian American churches.

It’s a thoughtful and powerful conversation between women ministers, discussing toxic masculinity, being women of color in Christian leadership, and Asian American church culture.

Thanks to Carl Catedral for engineering this episode, as well as Mark Redito for contributing music and Jason Garreth Loke for producing.


Centering is the Asian American Christian podcast. On season 3, hosted by Professor Jessica ChenFeng, we feature weekly conversations with guests, bringing their perspectives on Asian American Christian psychology and its impact on culture, identity, Christ and our Christian life.

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