Shame can be harmful – but by cultivating habits of compassion, we can take steps to intentionally change how we relate to ourselves and others when we fall short.

Therapist Natasha Subadya joins Jessica for this episode of Centering, discussing how she assists Asian American Christians with healing their relationship to shame and creating healthier individuals, families, churches, and communities.


Welcome to Centering, the Asian American Christian podcast! On Season 4, Hmong American minister Der Lor and Indian American therapist Melba Mathew explore how our ethnic and racial communities are nurtured, built, and supported. Listen at

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