In Centering, the Asian American Christian podcast, Hmong American minister Der Lor and Indian American therapist Melba Mathew explore how our communities are nurtured, built, and supported.

In this episode, Der and Melba share about the tension and unity between their ethnic (Hmong, Indian) and racial (Asian American) identities.

Centering is produced by Jason Chu, engineered by Alexander Catedral, with music by Mark Redito.

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Welcome to Centering, the Asian American Christian podcast! On Season 4, Hmong American minister Der Lor and Indian American therapist Melba Mathew explore how our ethnic and racial communities are nurtured, built, and supported. Listen at soundcloud.com/centeringpodcast